Comments on: Hot (Ex-)Copy Editor is Drunk and Online: A Transcript.

By: Susan

Susan — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:32:52 +0000

I’m so uncomfortable right now. TMI Thursday.

By: Bekki

Bekki — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:17:07 +0000

i really wish i could have seen your reactions during this convo!! omg

By: bernie

bernie — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:17:55 +0000

awesome…i mssed ur blog

yet creepily hilarious

By: lenfercest...

lenfercest... — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:01:37 +0000

she really wrote “stop by for a blowjob”? Shit.

I’m totally terrified by your spelling skills. Even when I’m sober, my IM conversations don’t look like that.

By: Clifford

Clifford — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:06:43 +0000

Wow. Weird conversations. That sucks. Sounds like you could have had her that night too. As for the following nights, nobody knows.

By: random

random — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:33:41 +0000

My first post despite reading your blog for awhile now, I have to say this post takes the cake. Really wonder what emotions were flooding through you during that conversation.

By: MPA

MPA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:10:12 +0000

Wow. I just had a heart attack for you… And I’m starting to like HCE a bit less - when did she get to be such a flat-out tease?

Quick question: Did you get any sleep at all that night?

By: Katie

Katie — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:26:35 +0000

I don’t like this girl. Or, at least, your literary representation of this girl. She offends me and my gender. And you, young man, here are some harsh words for you! Yes, your prose is endearing, but you shouldn’t have encouraged her so doggedly. Shame on you.

Ahhh, but who am I to condemn the blinkered pining of a heart that loves, and the narcissistic monsters created by it?

By: Incognito

Incognito — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:18:01 +0000

@Katie: If you think there’s any shame in Justin’s actions you’ve never been played (dare I say abused) by someone you cared about. You might find HCE offensive to your gender (I’m glad “Michigan Girl” didn’t stick bt”w, I like her first pseudo-name so much better), but guys do it too. I’m pretty sure I’ve been on both ends before - it’s just human nature, and not at its best.

And Justin - man, I’ve had some nasty IM conversations before but as always you take it up a notch. Waiting to hear how this turned out, if she isn’t also a forgetful drunk I’m expecting some interesting developments ;)

By: Anna

Anna — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:24:23 +0000

Wow.

I kinda hope, for her sake, that she didn’t remember that conversation the next day!

I agree with the people who have said they like her less now…

You could do SO much better than her. :)

By: elkylos

elkylos — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:14:26 +0000

Here, HCE, have some cake. Care to eat it, too?

By: N.A.

N.A. — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:30:54 +0000

Your blog was (is) the second hit on google for the word ‘awkward’. That was by far the weirdest way I found something interesting on the net so far.

By: piglet

piglet — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:45:58 +0000

At the risk of sounding like a defense attorney, I’ll go with Incognito on this one - when your heart’s being toyed with, you aren’t fully responsible for your actions. Otherwise nobody’d ever hear about “crimes of passion”. :)

By: Frigga

Frigga — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:56:32 +0000

Oh my oh my. So why’s she with her boyfriend at that point in time?

By: Gil

Gil — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:28:57 +0000

AAAAAH. This is seriously harsh. I feel for you Justin.

Thanks for posting.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:01:57 +0000

My fucking god, your relationship with HCE is *identically* to my relationship (even down to the awe-inspiring ability to spell even while shitface-drunk) with my best friend, the only differences being geographic. I’ve even had the above conversation before, under eerily similar circumstances.

Love the blog, keep up the awkward work.

By: Phoebus

Phoebus — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 04:00:14 +0000

This chick seems nice, but chicks like her are a total pill though.
Chicks like her just suck the life out of you.
Deck her boyfriend, sleep with her and then dump her ass.
It is definitely not your MO, but it’s the only thing that will get her out of your system.
Then move on.
Peace.

By: JimGimb

JimGimb — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:29:26 +0000

The parallels between HCE and my personal vice (woman) are scary as hell. I think they’re a lot more common most people realize. Good to know someone has been there besides me, man! Luckily, I probably won’t ever have to see her again because I’m moving to New York. It hurts to think about, but it’s what’s best for me and I hope you managed to escape HCE’s talons of turmoil at some point, as well… I love following this story, keep it coming!

By: Warren

Warren — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:21:44 +0000

Does HCE not have access to the Internetz? Surely she knows you have a blog? How does she feel about reading about herself? I don’t think she’d like how you wrote about her on this blog. It could kill your friendship, and prevent any kind of relationship from forming. Isn’t it obvious that she cares deeply about you and yet she’s conflicted. That’s how it is for a woman, when you let yourself get close to a guy who’s not your boyfriend. Men are capable of having sex with lots of women without falling in love with all of them. This is not healthy, but it’s shockingly normal. Women are capable of falling in love with more than one man at once. I hate to say it, but there it is. I think she does love you, and she does love her boyfriend, or at least she feels too responsible for him, and doesn’t want to disappoint him, and would feel too guilty to break up with him right now.

That’s my $0.02. :-)

By: JimGimb

JimGimb — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:35:14 +0000

To Warren:
This isn’t a live commentary on his life. This all happened years ago when he was in college. To my understanding, that is basically what this blog is; the re-cap of Justin’s various awkward encounters with women. Just thought you should know :-)

By: Warren

Warren — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:17:03 +0000

Yeah i realize that, it was 2003, but maybe, if HCE is still a friend, she’d find this pretty embarrassing.

By: Harriet

Harriet — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:47:19 +0000

Oh the times you’ve had.

People seem to have expressed a wealth of reactions to the following piece, I’m sure that I will probably repeat some. All I would like to say to you is this:
Humans are difficult. It cannot be said that she is “an insult to our gender” simply because there is bound to be more variation within a gender than between the two. I would say that there are some very manipulative men out there too.
I would agree with what Warren said about women having the capability to fall for two men at once (although I would say that men can do that as well) but I do not see that as any excuse for her behaviour. Perhaps the best thing to do with woman that perpetrate that behaviour in future is to say goodbye, quickly, or to state your terms and therefore save your feelings from damage.
I hope you learned from this not that women are manipulative scum but that people cannot control their feelings, only their actions and that it was her failure to control her actions that resulted in the situation.

But love is blind and “there’s no dearth of kindness in the world of ours; only in our blindness we gather thorns for flowers.”

In future just watch out for the thorns Justin…
xxx xxx

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:36:00 +0000

Man, I feel for you. (Just run away you lovesick fool)

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:39:41 +0000

Ah - just realised this was in the past and there’s no running to be done. Still feel for you though.

By: lenfercest...

lenfercest... — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:47:09 +0000

Harriet:
“Women are capable of falling in love with more than one man at once. I hate to say it, but there it is.”

Agree.

By: lenfercest...

lenfercest... — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:48:10 +0000

But it always ends with a shitload of problems.

By: David

David — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:54:35 +0000

I feel for you as this latest twist occurs. This girl is clearly confused and in her position should just pass out.

Having said that, you have no one to thank but yourself for this. HCE is no villain, she’s a woman. At the risk of offending half the readership (probably more) they cannot be trusted, especially with emotions and especially after a night of drinking.

Based on the transcript it looks like you initiated the conversation. Bad move. As you stated, you were lovesick as ever to boot.

Really though, the problem runs deeper than that. You’ve had your chances with her, I understand that you respect her existing relationship but you don’t choose who you care about and neither does she. Girls, too often, wait for a guy to come in and “rescue” them from a bad relationship.

I’ve this entire blog, probably twice and Michigan was your one opportunity to make something happen with this girl. Boyfriend or not, you have to let your feeling be known early enough that you don’t become the “Boundaries are for losers” platonic guy who she will never respect.

You should have been in control of when and how the feelings were revealed, not a box of wine and an IM client.

Looking forward to reading more…

By: pokeystix

pokeystix — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:09:40 +0000

That convo transcript made me want to give you a big hug.

I feel so sad for you right now.

I had no idea things would turn out that way, I thought HCE was gonna date you and that she’d by really kind and such… not… all manipulative and femme fatale-like.

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:35:48 +0000

you were that drunk and you say words like exploitation? I don’t know if i can beleive it.

By: youngstupidhighschooler

youngstupidhighschooler — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:27:12 +0000

So, I have read every single one of your entries in this blog, all in the past 5-6 days. I found it on a google search for awkward. I neglected summer reading and sleep for them.
It was so worth it. Hilarious stories. Especially some of the ones from your high school, like the one about when you were directing the choir.
I can’t wait to find out what happens next in the HCE saga.
How did you type like that drunk?

By: Virginia Belle

Virginia Belle — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:55:35 +0000

she said you can come over for making out, a blow job and/or sex?

and you didn’t go?

shit. you were head over heels for this girl. 99.9% of all other men would have been out the door before she finished typing the words.

i secretly wish for her abilities to cause men to writhe in emotional torment. it would be nice for the shoe to be on another foot for once. usually i’m the one writhing……

By: piglet

piglet — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:21:24 +0000

Belle - probably not quite 99.9%. There are good guys out there who (at least, if sober and/or able to use good judgment) won’t automatically take advantage of drunk girls with boyfriends, even with permission.

Cheers for at least trying to be a gentleman, J. All that being said - in spite of all your self-sabotage, and given the torment she’s dishing out, I sincerely hope you got to hit that on general principle.

By: Justin

Justin — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:47:05 +0000

Len: You can assume that, in real life, there were a hell of a lot more spelling errors on both of our parts. The vocabulary, though, is probably right on. :)

Ryan and JimGimb: I’m just trying to get the word out there. I agree, this happens a lot.

Phoebus: Sure thing!

Warren: If she reads it, she reads it. It wouldn’t be the first girl who’s read about herself on my blog. That’s why I keep things as true as I can.

David: I’d wager that lots of girls would think that MEN can’t be trusted!

Brian and YSHS: I wasn’t drunk at all, which I think kind of makes it worse for me. She was the drunk one. Actually, if you’re in high school, for all you know, being drunk makes your vocabulary awesome. Right?!

VB: But would you use the power of emotional torment for good, or for evil?

By: one girl

one girl — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:32:02 +0000

Drunk or sober I think it’s wrong for her to play with you like that. I think that’s really low and shows some insecurities.

By: elkylos

elkylos — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:37:26 +0000

Amen.

By: Zaro

Zaro — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:43:06 +0000

cute..sexy cute. lolz evry else had like more intelligent come backs it seems. [lol]

p.s. and no im not blonde…pplz tend 2 ask me that lot

By: JR

JR — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:34:47 +0000

if i was new to this blog…. that conversation would not even seem real…